One death for Rutherford's folly is too many. I'm so sorry.
Wasanelder Once
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told my parents to never ever tell me they love me again....
by oompa in...i told them in a very serious sitdown in their living room....said..."because if you cant show it then it does not count...that is not real love no matter who tells you it is....because it is how it makes me feel that determines if it is love....not if you just say it...and me and my sons do not feel that love at all now"....and i stayed calm and talked slowly and barely shed a tear as i held them back...and i had asked them to not say a word but just listen...dad said they would as long as it was not about religion as i knew he would.
this was two of the worst days of my life in a row..i told them the pain me and my boys feel from their shunning is worse than if they had died...that then i could grieve naturally and move on because that is normal....grief helps you cope...my grief is different because they choose to act like i am dead and normal grief does not seem to work on that.
i shared an epiphany with them i had about mens rules vs gods great idea of dna (but no i am not sure about a god anymore)it went kinda like this:.
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They were being half assed and that brought them comfort. NOW they will feel the full extent of thier choice. It's in your court. Perhaps this will shake them to their senses when they realize how much they miss your family and your love for them. Oppressive damn religion.
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Looking through a glass onion
by MoneurMallard inhas anyone given any consideration to the fact that the torah strictly prohibited sorcery and those who spoke with the dead, and the acts of jesus during his ministry?.
deu 18:9 "when you come into the land that the lord your god is giving you, you shall not learn to follow the abominable practices of those nations.
deu 18:10 there shall not be found among you anyone who burns his son or his daughter as an offering, anyone who practices divination or tells fortunes or interprets omens, or a sorcerer .
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Tryin to make a dovetail joint.
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City Overseers discontinued immediately 9/16/11
by Gayle inletter dated 09/16/11 to all boes about city overseers being discontinued effective immediately.. this is from a very reliable jw anonymous source.. .
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Often they handled PR business regarding conventions, news releases to local papers and such.
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Which songs/Albums were considered "Demonic" in your Congregation...did you toss some?
by Witness 007 in"hotel california" was considered a major demonic song.
ac/dc stood for anti-christ devils children....{not according to the band} kiss stood for knight s in satans service {not according to the band} anyone else have to toss albums?.
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Dark Side of the Moon. I remember being at a party and someone was playing it and a parent wanted me to talk to her son about the influnece of such demonic music. I said something generic realizing that I had loved that album for years. That was a real tough one for me to reconcile. I don't care much any longer. Us and Them you know?
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Max Larson died today at 96 yrs...Watchtower President since 2000
by williamhconley inwatchtower society of new york president max larson died today at the age of 96.. served in bethel since 1938 (73 yrs at bethel) long before geoffrey jackson & anthony morris of the gb were even born.. http://www.jw-archive.org/2011/09/bro-max-larson-died-today.html.
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Wasanelder Once
He was in the society's film Heritage in the 1960's. He's seen here at 3:09.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Truthbookblues#p/u/6/tlie8JIihd4
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A life of mental illness ends in violence.
by koolaid-man inhttp://www.concordmonitor.com/article/282059/life-of-mental-illness-ends-in-violence?csauthresp=1317045871%3a5dma6uqf4gb51ccvnpdbjnt710%3acsuserid|csgroupid%3aapproved%3aa955edbf7d0543430de7104e3c2115c3&csuserid=94&csgroupid=1.
desperate acts, violent endingsa life of mental illness ends in violencerelatives say woman had psychiatric issuesphoto by alexander cohn / monitor stafffamily photos of shelly naroian fill a board thursday, september 22, 2011. naroian was killed during a stand-off with hillsboro police in may.purchase photo reprints at photoextra by annmarie timmins and maddie hanna / monitor staffseptember 26, 2011share thisemailcomments (2)print3photo by alexander cohn / monitor staffa hole where the bullet that killed shelly naroian last may can still be seen in the wall of the family's hillsboro home; thursday, september 22, 2011.purchase photo reprints at photoextra four months later, jim naroian still displays the condolence cards that arrived after his wife, shelly, was killed by a police officer's bullet in the living room of their hillsboro home.
the cards reassure jim his wife isn't forgotten.
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Simon, I thought you banned this nutjob? What did "you've blah blah blahed this forum.... blah blah" at the end of his last thread mean? I thought you had enough of this clown? Did he kiss butt or something and promise to be a good little apostate? He's really just a sad little religious fanatic.
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As a JW - Did you See Meetings Continue in Spite of Medical Emergencies?
by flipper ini was talking the other day with a fellow board member about medical emergencies occuring at meetings and how we both agreed that we ( while jw's ) had never seen a meeting stop or be cancelled due to medical emergencies experienced by a fellow jw.
the wt society trains jw' s to lose their authentic human feelings or any empathy towards others physical or emotional sufferings many times.
so many times at meetings , in spite of someone suffering a serious medical emergency it was " the show must go on " type of attitude displayed by congregation elders.. my first experience at seeing a medical emergency at the kingdom hall was an older sister who had an epileptic attack.
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Sorry to dissapoint but I had a bible student who was about 65 attending the public talk. About 10 minutes into the talk he had a major heart attack. The chairs were pulled back and he was laid out on the floor as the emt's worked on him. Everyone sat quietly. They got a beat but not for very long. He was brain dead. They took him to the hospital and he died 9 days later. The brothers called the meetings off and sent everyone home. No talk, no WT study. Not all JW's are fricken robots, gotta give credit where credit is due. I'm sure this isn't the only incendence of this happening. Even if it is a cult not everyone is heartless. It was a wake up call for me that no day should be taken for granted. I'm sure you'll find many other heartless examples flip, its just that there is a balance here. In my town anyway. It still hurts, he was a really great guy.
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New here looking for some help
by angel.face inlong story short, i have been a jw for the pst 7 years.
i am married with 2 kids.
hubby is a die hard jw who is an ms and would like to be elder.
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Wasanelder Once
Welcome to the out crowd. Slow and easy Angel, just softly flap those wings so that the downdraft is soothing and not a tornado upon their heads. Did you have a good summer?
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Fav Movie Directors, do U have one?
by talesin insecond attempt here,.
let me know your favs... :d .
i love to watch flicks, and whether they are famous or obscure, would love to see your favs (exception, i don't watch zombie films, sorry, except for bodysnatchers).. .
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